There seem to be quite a few ladies that have a hard time getting any growth, and after a few months are discouraged.
I would like to add a couple of items that really made a difference in my program, and see if it may help you progress.
First, swelling issues aside, how many of you have chosen an end result? I know, we all have "bigger breasts" as our goal, but what does that mean?
How does your brain and body actually know what to do? YOU TELL IT! :
Similar to picking out a "goal bra" to fill, you really need to find a good pic of the boobies you want and use it with a vision board. And daily affirm in words exactly what you want your body to do. Your mind is the most powerful tool you have and could even on it's own make your boobies grow to something you want, if you had full control of it. So put what you have to work for you, envision your end result as much as you massage, or even more because you can do that anywhere unlike wearing the cups. Having a good hypno tape of sorts, to meditate with is killer!!
Second, if your one of those that responds slow or not at all, it's time to consult with a physician and have your hormone levels checked. With out the proper balance of chemistry, you will be fighting an uphill battle. Simply adding phyto-estrogens, or glandulars from other species wont help if you are Testosterone dominant. Remember puberty, and the raging emotional sweeping changes while growing boobs? Like having to cry out load and not knowing why, that is the state where boobies grow. So ... if your hormones are not where they need to be then you need to know two things. Is there a medical reason for the imbalance, if so skip boobies and fix that, if not, see if your current status will allow you to tip the scale more so on the estrogen side.
Taking supplements, Orally is the usual method however I submit that of whatever you put in your mouth you are only getting 10% or less of that content to the needed area of your body, because most of that material is going to be metabolized/converted by your organs before it ever gets to your breasts. Especially in the case of hormones because after puberty your body becomes an alchemist and tries to balance everything out. So if you put in phyto-estrogens your liver and other organs are going to try and convert as much of it as possible to testosterone and vice versa because its programmed to keep the balance according to the code it's given (DNA/MALE/FEMALE). That being said ... the most direct route to the breast tissue is through the skin. So making and using butters n creams that YOU MAKE from certain plant materials are the best thing you can do. Here are a couple for instances, red lentils, soak them in water over night (12-24 hours or so)then put them in a food processor and make them into butter, add a little oil (olive is the original recipe but I prefer grape seed) and a little sugar. Use that as a cream to massage with and leave it on for a couple hours (or over night if you can). That's a good one, but the killer is flax seed. Same thing, but you will need to strain with a very fine strainer the remainder of the seed shells from the gelatinous goop that will result you can massage with that but I actually use it in the cups, adding equal amounts of water to the goop and then putting in the cups enough to fill the space that is usually left in them after getting the pump to full pressure. (gotta lie on your back and have a liquid cup for the pump) YOU HAVE TO MAKE these your self, seeds are the most explosively potent form of energy on the planet, but they are only good for short time after activating all that power. So buying a pre-made cream from somewhere is absolutely USELESS. And as James has mentioned elsewhere flax ... being full of proteins will decay after a short time, so you will need to refrigerate the stuff as much as possible, brrrr rrr rrr ... cold boobies Sorry, but BO is just going to have to be oral, ... LOL ewwww cow parts. and oh my ... flax is so good for the skin....it feels so soft and silky when you take em out! ;D
what else, well, for those of us that respond slow, or are of the male persuasion it's a long slow path, mine is now at the 7 year mark including the first 4 before noogleberry. But, I went from flat chested and inverted nipples to filling a d cup bra, there is one problem with all that cuppage, I want my bra to be my noogle cups now. LOL
what else could you possible add here? the one thing I see missing the most on the forums is a partner, most of you seem to be afraid to get your partner involved. This is a lot of work, and really if you can get an extra pair of hands to take care of some of those chores it will help so much more. I don't see what your afraid of I mean I know there are some people who just can't see past their own inhibitions, but I don't know many guys that would pass an opportunity to work with your boobies no matter what the routine. INCLUDE your partner in your routine if at all possible, TELL them just what is going on. say something like, I still feel really self conscious about my appearance, I really would feel better if my boobies were not so small (even if yours are not small use these words because EVERY guy can relate to that word : ) Then tell them that you need help rubbing them, .... yea,... if you don't get immediate attention to your boobies, ... leave him. PERIOD because he is either gay or not into you. You just laid a plea for help, that included rubbing boobs.....sorry but it's just plain to see.
Swelling, ok, I have seen the conversation go back and forth on swelling. Weather or not you NEED to have swelling, I would say not. Swelling is a sign of distress in the body or tissue, if you punch me hard, the affected area swells up and yes... if you keep doing this, it will alter your body and things might grow, but do you really want boobie tissue that has been beaten to a pulp? Swelling in medical terms "itis" think of all the nasty bad things that have this suffix. No, I would say you don't NEED swelling it is however a sign that you have sufficiently stretched the area in question which should tell you that your stretch was not without results. The thing to ask is... was it only skin deep. This is one of the main factors that the "medical" folks use to write off this form of body modification that you can only stretch the outside of the container. This is where methods come in that reach a little deeper. Hydrolics!!
OK so this is the methods part of my blurb!! Air versus Water
To reach deep down into the actual glands and pull them from within, U need to use water. Your body is mostly water so using a much less dense material to act on your body is very inefficient to counter that FILL the cups with water and pump them on. Now I have seen other posts that recommend just filling them a little and pumping them on using air while lying down. Lets get something straight, that is a bath, not a hydro pump. To get the full effects of hydrodynamic pressure there must be NO AIR involved. you will notice that a LOT more flesh will enter the cups. and they will feel MUCH more comfortable when you get them to full pressure.
Pump gauges, really important to prevent injuries to your boobies!! The first marker on the scale is usually at the 5 in.hg or what ever that acronym is (i forget) most people are like I can't get to 5....but you don't want to at least not at the start. 5 on that scale is where your flesh starts to react badly, as in breaking down, popping blood vessels...ect. 5 on that scale is your goal, yes, but don't go past it if you can help it and never ever go there on the first pump(so to speak) :. What you want is to be able to pump your boobies to that point and be able to keep it there. MORE importantly if your just starting your program, DO NOT pump to that marker for at least 2 WEEKS, simply pump enough to get the cups to stay on, to which you might add two squeezes on the lever and increase that by two squeezes every time you have a session until you finally get to 5 in this way your flesh will become accustomed to the negative pressure and you will avoid any over pumping issues.
I was asked some time ago to put into detail my experiences in breast expansion, but evertime I sit down to write something gets in the way. I hope that this little blurb, will answer those questions. To that person, sorry, I did not see your message till about 4 months after you asked as I was not on the boards for quite sometime.
OH, and one more thing, with regard to lube, if your not using any when you pump .... your wasting your time. I use grapeseed oil now almost exclusively flax is not the best oil, it is the highest in estrogen but it's messy and goes rancid, grapeseed oil is the closest to your natural fluids from your own body, is easy to clean and is inexpensive. Coconut is good too, but comes with a cleanup cost, because of it's property's, it can become a solid at a lower temp and is a bitch to deal with sometimes...LOL
;D @Julieonline sorry ... it's not the book i was going to write but, there are some of the more salient points! OK, I can add more but I almost lost this page so I am going to post now and add later...LOL
I would like to add a couple of items that really made a difference in my program, and see if it may help you progress.
First, swelling issues aside, how many of you have chosen an end result? I know, we all have "bigger breasts" as our goal, but what does that mean?
How does your brain and body actually know what to do? YOU TELL IT! :
Similar to picking out a "goal bra" to fill, you really need to find a good pic of the boobies you want and use it with a vision board. And daily affirm in words exactly what you want your body to do. Your mind is the most powerful tool you have and could even on it's own make your boobies grow to something you want, if you had full control of it. So put what you have to work for you, envision your end result as much as you massage, or even more because you can do that anywhere unlike wearing the cups. Having a good hypno tape of sorts, to meditate with is killer!!Second, if your one of those that responds slow or not at all, it's time to consult with a physician and have your hormone levels checked. With out the proper balance of chemistry, you will be fighting an uphill battle. Simply adding phyto-estrogens, or glandulars from other species wont help if you are Testosterone dominant. Remember puberty, and the raging emotional sweeping changes while growing boobs? Like having to cry out load and not knowing why, that is the state where boobies grow. So ... if your hormones are not where they need to be then you need to know two things. Is there a medical reason for the imbalance, if so skip boobies and fix that, if not, see if your current status will allow you to tip the scale more so on the estrogen side.
Taking supplements, Orally is the usual method however I submit that of whatever you put in your mouth you are only getting 10% or less of that content to the needed area of your body, because most of that material is going to be metabolized/converted by your organs before it ever gets to your breasts. Especially in the case of hormones because after puberty your body becomes an alchemist and tries to balance everything out. So if you put in phyto-estrogens your liver and other organs are going to try and convert as much of it as possible to testosterone and vice versa because its programmed to keep the balance according to the code it's given (DNA/MALE/FEMALE). That being said ... the most direct route to the breast tissue is through the skin. So making and using butters n creams that YOU MAKE from certain plant materials are the best thing you can do. Here are a couple for instances, red lentils, soak them in water over night (12-24 hours or so)then put them in a food processor and make them into butter, add a little oil (olive is the original recipe but I prefer grape seed) and a little sugar. Use that as a cream to massage with and leave it on for a couple hours (or over night if you can). That's a good one, but the killer is flax seed. Same thing, but you will need to strain with a very fine strainer the remainder of the seed shells from the gelatinous goop that will result you can massage with that but I actually use it in the cups, adding equal amounts of water to the goop and then putting in the cups enough to fill the space that is usually left in them after getting the pump to full pressure. (gotta lie on your back and have a liquid cup for the pump) YOU HAVE TO MAKE these your self, seeds are the most explosively potent form of energy on the planet, but they are only good for short time after activating all that power. So buying a pre-made cream from somewhere is absolutely USELESS. And as James has mentioned elsewhere flax ... being full of proteins will decay after a short time, so you will need to refrigerate the stuff as much as possible, brrrr rrr rrr ... cold boobies
Sorry, but BO is just going to have to be oral, ... LOL ewwww cow parts. and oh my ... flax is so good for the skin....it feels so soft and silky when you take em out! ;Dwhat else, well, for those of us that respond slow, or are of the male persuasion it's a long slow path, mine is now at the 7 year mark including the first 4 before noogleberry. But, I went from flat chested and inverted nipples to filling a d cup bra, there is one problem with all that cuppage, I want my bra to be my noogle cups now. LOL
what else could you possible add here? the one thing I see missing the most on the forums is a partner, most of you seem to be afraid to get your partner involved. This is a lot of work, and really if you can get an extra pair of hands to take care of some of those chores it will help so much more. I don't see what your afraid of I mean I know there are some people who just can't see past their own inhibitions, but I don't know many guys that would pass an opportunity to work with your boobies no matter what the routine. INCLUDE your partner in your routine if at all possible, TELL them just what is going on. say something like, I still feel really self conscious about my appearance, I really would feel better if my boobies were not so small (even if yours are not small use these words because EVERY guy can relate to that word :
) Then tell them that you need help rubbing them, .... yea,... if you don't get immediate attention to your boobies, ... leave him. PERIOD because he is either gay or not into you. You just laid a plea for help, that included rubbing boobs.....sorry but it's just plain to see.Swelling, ok, I have seen the conversation go back and forth on swelling. Weather or not you NEED to have swelling, I would say not. Swelling is a sign of distress in the body or tissue, if you punch me hard, the affected area swells up and yes... if you keep doing this, it will alter your body and things might grow, but do you really want boobie tissue that has been beaten to a pulp? Swelling in medical terms "itis" think of all the nasty bad things that have this suffix. No, I would say you don't NEED swelling it is however a sign that you have sufficiently stretched the area in question which should tell you that your stretch was not without results. The thing to ask is... was it only skin deep. This is one of the main factors that the "medical" folks use to write off this form of body modification that you can only stretch the outside of the container. This is where methods come in that reach a little deeper. Hydrolics!!
OK so this is the methods part of my blurb!! Air versus Water
To reach deep down into the actual glands and pull them from within, U need to use water. Your body is mostly water so using a much less dense material to act on your body is very inefficient to counter that FILL the cups with water and pump them on. Now I have seen other posts that recommend just filling them a little and pumping them on using air while lying down. Lets get something straight, that is a bath, not a hydro pump. To get the full effects of hydrodynamic pressure there must be NO AIR involved. you will notice that a LOT more flesh will enter the cups. and they will feel MUCH more comfortable when you get them to full pressure.
Pump gauges, really important to prevent injuries to your boobies!! The first marker on the scale is usually at the 5 in.hg or what ever that acronym is (i forget) most people are like I can't get to 5....but you don't want to at least not at the start. 5 on that scale is where your flesh starts to react badly, as in breaking down, popping blood vessels...ect. 5 on that scale is your goal, yes, but don't go past it if you can help it and never ever go there on the first pump(so to speak) :
. What you want is to be able to pump your boobies to that point and be able to keep it there. MORE importantly if your just starting your program, DO NOT pump to that marker for at least 2 WEEKS, simply pump enough to get the cups to stay on, to which you might add two squeezes on the lever and increase that by two squeezes every time you have a session until you finally get to 5 in this way your flesh will become accustomed to the negative pressure and you will avoid any over pumping issues.I was asked some time ago to put into detail my experiences in breast expansion, but evertime I sit down to write something gets in the way. I hope that this little blurb, will answer those questions. To that person, sorry, I did not see your message till about 4 months after you asked as I was not on the boards for quite sometime.
OH, and one more thing, with regard to lube, if your not using any when you pump .... your wasting your time. I use grapeseed oil now almost exclusively flax is not the best oil, it is the highest in estrogen but it's messy and goes rancid, grapeseed oil is the closest to your natural fluids from your own body, is easy to clean and is inexpensive. Coconut is good too, but comes with a cleanup cost, because of it's property's, it can become a solid at a lower temp and is a bitch to deal with sometimes...LOL
;D
@Julieonline sorry ... it's not the book i was going to write but, there are some of the more salient points! OK, I can add more but I almost lost this page so I am going to post now and add later...LOL