could the pressure of the cup to produce cancer?

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mariela

Guest
Yesterday i pumped with little amount of lotion, and the cup was very Tighten of my breast, and Today I started to feel a pain in one breast, I think the pressure of the cup, I wondered if the pressure of the glass could cause breast cancer. :( soon I start to use the soft rings.
 
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KatieP

Guest
That is a great question! In my personal opinion I don't think the rims could cause damage that would lead to cancer. I think if the rims are covered like some lovely ladies on here have suggested (campers tape etc) then that would lessen the degree of damage.

I'm sure from noogling the cells are expanding and/or eventually replicating to the point that the cells can grow blood supply to support the new cell tissue.

In terms of cell growth and cancer I think that is unknown. Of course being aggressive with the noogle to the point of purple/bruising/pain, 8 hours a day for a few years wouldn't be ideal. Its always good for us ladies to be familiar with our breasts and know our family history of breast cancer or any cancer for that matter.

I have never tried Brava but I have heard it is gentle sustained pressure so if that works then we really don't need to place a tremendous amount of pressure to achieve our goals.

With that being said I still think it is a safe way to enlarge your breasts.

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morninghello

Guest
Hi, Dulce. Like KatieP, I don't think that it's possible for the pressure of rims or the pressure generally to cause cancer. There's just no way that it would cause cell mutation. Good luck with the soft rings - they definitely can be helpful.
 

wannabecee

New Member
On the brava site they mention that there is no breast specialist that believes that suction can cause breast cancer. Don't worry - but always, don't overpump and get to the purple stage. not that it can cause cancer, but it can create some problems..
 

itsjust4fun91

New Member
If I'm not mistaken, there is a news clip you can find on youtube about brava being used to regrow breast tissue in women that have had surgery due to cancer. I would think that if there was even the slightest chance of this process causing cancer, the last place they would be using it would be on patients that are already at such a high risk.
 
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mariela

Guest
thank you for your answers. itsjust4fun91, that surprises me. in the brava page (and many other pages) say it should not be used by women who had cancer whose mothers have had. I know that brava is approved for FDA. But the brava domes are different, I understand they are more comfortable.
i think that with the soft rings I will not have problems.
 

itsjust4fun91

New Member
what's even more funny is the news clip is about BRAVA and interviews the creator of it. Here is the clip about it. It doesn't address the use of it for reconstruction of breast tissue due to cancer until the end of it, but it's not a long clip.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ug5TxfW8BHg
 
I think the only thing to worry about is permanent indentations, so finding the right kind of padding is essential (especially for girls with less natural padding on their chest. I have ordered the camper tape that has been suggested. I will keep on noogling in the mean time, but when the tape arrives, i will increase my hours.

Breast cancer is something that worries me and thats why I am happy taking PM, or consuming foods with phytoestrogens, as they help regulate the use of estrogen in the body.
 

nilly19

Member
I am a new member here, and I have really bad OCD..(an example would be that if I am 2 days late for a period, I immediately assume pregnancy even if I haven't had intercourse). So, like any other product, I researched this product like no other, I can honestly say I have gone to 90% of the sites that have the key words "breast pump" in them and visited 3 doctors.
My family doctor, who is also a university professor at a very reputable university, assured me that there is no risk of breast cancer with this product. He said that if I see nipple discharge and bruising I should use it less often only because of my own comfort level, but he said that it could not cause breast cancer.
Regards, happy noogling.
 
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sissy2345

Guest
I don't think pumping, swelling and building new tissue could cause cancer in the breast itself, unless you have cancer cells forming already, of course you will be helping those along. We all have cancer cells in our body, but our immune system keeps them in line, hopefully for all our lives.

The question of would the pressure of the domes cause cancer is another issue. There is most definitely a connection between "inflammation" and cancer. I recently had a problem where I think I bruised a rib, probably from bending over too much with the domes on, putting too much friction on one certain point. It was very painful, swelled to a small egg size lump directly under the rim, and every time I pumped it burned internally, and no amount of cushioning helped. At this time, I had been on the computer alot with the domes on, and I know I caused it. I backed off pumping for a week or two, still pumped, but not as much and as soon as it started hurting, I took the domes off.

I was not concerned with cancer, and I'm pretty sure my diagnosis was right on, and it's gone now. However, I do think if I had continued to pump and kept this one spot under my left breast in a constant state of inflammation, the potential to cause cancer was there at some point.

As far as just the NORMAL pressure of the domes, like the "red ring" area that we get used to and seems to not hurt after a while. in my opinion is not a problem. However, if your body never gets used to it and you feel like you are bruising yourself internally over and over, not just an uncomfortable feeling, cause we all get that, but an intense pain of the rims constantly rubbing your bones, that could cause a problem. I don't want to scare anyone, and I'm not a MD of course, but I have done extensive research on cancer and tumors. You can do a search for "cancer and inflammation" and see what I'm talking about. I hope this makes sense, just recognize the difference between dome pressure and internal pain around the ring area. My problem didn't happen until a year into pumping, so by this time I was able to recognize it was more serious than being sore from pumping too much.

--Sissy
 

wannabecee

New Member
i was just looking at the brava page and they do not advise the brava system for women who have had breast surgery and have surgical scars in that area.

the incidence of cancer in women who used brava was the same as the general population.
 

itsjust4fun91

New Member
I only know what the inventor of brava said in his interview on the news when he was discussing using it to rebuild the tissue and said they had studies going on if I recall. Maybe until the studies have been fully completed, they have to protect themselves by saying that on the site, or maybe the studies are complete and they didn't like what they found. I guess they need to clear that up at some point, since they have to know their interview is still floating around on youtube.
 

itsjust4fun91

New Member
Okay, this is from the Brava site and you can go to the page and read it or just read it here where I will paste it. It is about their clinical studies and the fact that it is used for reconstructive surgery on a regular basis.

As far as scars and brava, I can see it causing some issues as it irritates my old stretch marks when I noogle, but women that have had breast surgery for cancer have to have some scars also, so then again, it's a bit confusing.

http://www.brava.com/clinical-trial-results-safety.asp

Brava and Breast Cancer:
Most importantly, the BRAVA System and the technology of tissue expansion are not associated with cancer.



3- Clinical Experiment:
Tissue expansion is routinely used for post-mastectomy breast reconstruction. It is well known that even the most radical mastectomy leaves behind some breast tissue. Yet more than three decades of experience on millions of women leave no evidence that expanding that residual cancer prone breast increases the likelihood of cancer growth or recurrence. Furthermore, despite the fact that skin is the most cancer prone organ in the body and skin expansion is routinely used in plastic surgery, there are no reports in the literature of cancer arising in the expanded skin.

4- Animal Experiment:
Published research in animals of the effect of tissue expansion on cancer growth has shown that tissue expansion has an inhibitory effect upon the growth of implanted mammary tumor cells and on the extent of visceral metastasis. (Ref: Plast Reconstr Surg 1991 Jan;87(1):1-7)

5- Cell Biology Experiments:
The cellular mechanisms responsible for tension induced tissue growth involve a highly organized array of sensors, receptors and growth promoting signals. Transformed or cancerous cells typically loose these pathways and acquire an autonomous growth mechanism that is independent of these normal cues. When grown in tissue culture plates, normal cells multiply until they reach confluence; that is when a monolayer fills the plate and "contact inhibition" causes them to cease multiplying. Tissue expansion has been demonstrated in these tissue culture plates; as stretching the plate and the overlying cells causes them to multiply again until they reach the new equilibrium level of confluence. The hallmark of cancerous transformation is the loss of this "contact inhibition". Cancer cells loose the normal clues that make them respond to confluence and tension and will keep on growing autonomously and independently from any additional stretch.

6- The Brava Clinical Experience:
After nearly two years of clinical practice in the US on thousands of women, we can now affirm that Brava has saved lives. We have a number of confirmed instances where our diligent requirement for breast exam and screening mammography has led to the detection and early treatment of smaller curable tumors that would have otherwise grown unnoticed and metastasized. (As a rule, we suggest that all Brava users have a recent breast exam prior to using the System. A mammogram (within one year) may also be recommended as per the guidelines set by the American Cancer Society.)

7- Expert Opinions:
We asked two nationally recognized breast cancer experts, one at Vanderbilt University and the other at the MD Anderson Cancer Center to independently review our data, our breast biopsies, and the literature and give us a written opinion as to the cancer risk, if any, associated with Brava. They both unequivocally wrote that there is no evidence whatsoever that it might in any way promote cancer growth or increase cancer risk. Furthermore, there are some in academia that believe that the effects of Brava might actually be cancer protective. Besides the theoretical cell biology evidence (Stretching is good for a cell; Science: May 30, 1997; 276(5317):1345-6), there is evidence from an epidemiological study that showed that women who wear supportive brassieres that annul the lifelong stretch of gravity have a higher incidence of breast cancer.

Finally, Susan Love, M.D., a leading breast cancer expert and professor at UCLA, was quoted in ELLE Magazine's March issue, "The Next Breast Thing" (p. 251) saying "There is no reason to think it causes cancer" and added that, " Compared to most of the fly-by-night things proposed to increase breast size, it actually has some data behind it and seems to pose fewer risks than breast implants or over-the-counter drugs and creams"."

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Rose

New Member
I think the reason Brava warns against using suction method for those with a family history of breast cancer is because they are more likely to get breast cancer and could unrightfully blame it on the product.
My mother got breast cancer so I asked the women who interviewed me, and she kind of implied that was the reason for the warning.
 

Bluewillowskys

New Member
Has anyone heard if it can be used post radiation for a prior breast cancer patient to increase growth and vascularity prebreast fst transfer??
 
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