8AAAA start, slow but steady progress

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Mumma Bear

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I've been at this for a few years now so I prob should start a page here! I've copied my old program page from the Breast Nexus forum below. I have taken pics along the way but not recently, so I will post them together as soon as I have some new ones. Promise.

Program is now about 6 to 8 hours of noogling per day (mainly during sleep) in 2 sessions. 3200mg of Saw Palmetto and a heaped teaspoon of MSM daily.



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Mumma Bear's PM and a whole stack of other stuff programNovember 16 2008 at 6:34 AM Mumma Bear (no login)

OK, I'm taking the plunge and recording my program. I don't want to become obsessed with this, which is why I haven't posted my program until now - but hopefully it will just be a good way of motivating myself and seeing progress.

I've dabbled with various BE herbs over the years here and there, but with no decent success. Now I'm trying PM it feels for the first time I might actually be able to make significant gains, feeling quite positive!

My Stats from a couple of months ago:
38
Married, 2 children now 12 and 16 - both breastfed for 3 and 4+ years respectively (yes, waaaay too long, they wouldn't give it up the little rascals!) Left with no breast tissue and awfully sad sagging nipples.
Perimenopausal
Healthy eater, plenty of home cooking. Dislike sweets and fatty foods.
Underbust: 26.5 inches
Overbust: 28 inches
Waist 23.5: inches
Hips: 34 inches
Height: 161cm
Weight: 43kg
Australian bra size 10AAA
Australian clothes size 6

After the last 2 cycles on PM I'm currently:
Underbust: 26.5 inches
Overbust: 29 inches
Waist 23.5: inches
Hips: 34 inches
Weight: 42 kilos
Australian bra size 10AA

Only 1 inch growth, but so much more fullness and shape! :) Every day I wake up to ever so slightly bigger breasts, which is keeping me motivated.

So my program at the moment is:

Nothing taken internally on days 1 through 5 of cycle except 1000mg borage/starflower oil twice daily

Bella's PM - ramping up and ramping down from day 5 through to day 23 (so full dose on days 7 through to 21)

Herbal tincture with Fenugreek, Fennel and Goats Rue. 5ml in water 3 times per day

Massage - a few minutes either side twice a day with a special concoction of cocoa butter, a dash of the tincture, a teaspoon of PM powder, some pumpkin seed oil, some borage/starflower oil and maybe other things that I've forgotten (see perimenopausal note above!). Disgusting smell - i let it soak in for a few minutes then wash off thoroughly.

Bella's perfect potion or serum or something - the most concentrated one. Applied twice a day. Runs out way too fast (don't believe the 2 months worth on the website!) but seems to be great for retaining growth. Smells nice and absorbs well.

Magnets - just keep them clipped in my bra most of the day. Can't be bothered with switching to negative or energising postions etc etc - I'd never remember! Seem to also help with retaining growth.

Just lately - taking a 5htp tablet before bed. Mainly to help with sleep and mood, but I'm also quite interested in the serotonin/prolactin connection.

Lastly - I've just ordered a noogleberry! Can't wait for it to turn up.

If I can - no - think positive - when I reach my goal of a B or C cup, I will be treating myself to some of that divine Pleasure State lingerie!

Happy growing to everyone here!!!












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Mumma Bear
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Re: Mumma Bear's PM and a whole stack of other stuff program November 16 2008, 9:16 AM

Oops - forgot the protein drink.

One protein drink per day - milk with 2 very heaped teaspoons of protein supplement and a dash of drinking chocolate to make it edible.


Mumma Bear
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Re: Mumma Bear's PM and a whole stack of other stuff program November 18 2008, 1:00 AM

So my noogleberry has been shipped - I've ordered medium cups and can't wait to start! We have a week at the beach booked for early Jan and I'm already planning extra noogling sessions for then! On their forum the girls seem to talk more in cup sizes rather than individual inches - maybe that's a good sign they're getting significant results.

Having awful mood swings - probably the hypo from the FG and Goats Rue. I'm taking the dose down a bit.

Have noticed a tiny bit of fullness just above nipples in the last day (CD 7 today). Much better than concave!


Mumma Bear
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Re: Mumma Bear's PM and a whole stack of other stuff program November 22 2008, 1:51 AM

Still no Noogleberry - sigh - it does have to travel across the globe though...

I've had to drop the fenugreek/goats rue/fennel tincture for now - it was making me feel sooo bad.

Still noticing more and more fullness every day, dropping the tincture hasn't seemed to slow it, such a long way to go though....

The PM seems to turn luteal swelling into luteal growth - no more of this 2 steps forward, 1.9 steps back every month.



Mumma Bear
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Re: Mumma Bear's PM and a whole stack of other stuff program November 24 2008, 11:49 PM

Still no Noogleberry - but the postie is yet to arrive today - fingers crossed!

I tried on my smallest bra this morning and whooohooo I've grown out of it! Granted it is an Elle Macpherson 10A which in any other brand would be an 8AA/AAA as the sizing is ridiculous in that brand. It was loose before and now it's obscenely unwearable! It's such a pretty bra but I can't say I'm disappointed I can't wear it anymore! :)

I'm midcycle now on my 3rd round of Bella's PM, so still have a third round of luteal growth to go!

Hurry up Noogle! Just had a letter from New Zealand take 10 days to get here, so who knows how long a parcel from the UK will take....


Mumma Bear
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New use for Fimo! November 25 2008, 10:35 AM

Whoo hoo - the postie literally THREW my poor Noogleberry from the middle of the road where had he stopped his van, it sailed high over our garden gate and crashed down onto our front path!! I work from home so I saw the whole thing, he saw me looking at his rough-as-guts delivery method, so he hopped back into his van and sped off. Should report him for "Crimes against Noogleberry!"

So...

Luckily it was all fine, nothing broken. I had a go with the medium cups, had huge gaps either side, so I didn't have a chance of any seal for suction. I ordered the small cups this afternoon.

However, this evening I had a little brainwave and put a thick, shaped layer of Fimo (a modelling clay) around the rim so as to close the big gaps either side of my extra narrow ribcage and it worked!! Not glamorous, but very effective!

I've just cancelled my small cup order and I think these will be fine for now. Geez, there's a fair bit of pull there! Reminds me of the sensation of being horribly engorged while breastfeeding. Note to self - beauty knows no pain, beauty knows no pain, beauty knows no pain, beauty knows no pain...




Mumma Bear
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Re: Mumma Bear's PM and a whole stack of other stuff program November 30 2008, 11:19 PM

So it's been almost a week on the NB and I'm already getting swelling that lasts! I can see it's going to work, so I've ditched the magnets and the massage - although I am still applying the homemade cream gently. Have also discontinued the GR, FG and fennel tincture as noted previously, as well as the 5htp. With this next week of luteal swelling/growth I will be the biggest I've ever been since early breastfeeding days - many years ago.

I'm taping my nipples for NB sessions - and hoping that they don't become any more saggy. I'm really hoping I can get full enough that they don't sag anymore. It doesn't seem to be a common problem - I've googled around and there's pretty much no info - am I the only one??!! If they still sag after a year or so of NB, I think I'll treat myself to some surgical fixing for my 40th, from the little info I've found, it seems it's just a 30 to 60 minute operation with local anesthetic, minimal recovery time and under $2K - pretty much equivalent to the operation to fix inverted nipples. There's also the new laser skin tightening - I wonder if this would work for nipples and which would be the better option? Anyone out there with the same nipple issues?!


Mumma Bear
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Another inch!! December 14 2008, 10:13 AM

Another inch of solid growth, which has been stabilising over the last week. Noogleberry is doing absolute wonders!

I'm 2 days away from starting my 4th cycle with PM, this will bump up the progress again, fingers crossed. Whoo hoo! The old nipples are perking up a bit, hopefully won't have to consider that surgery mentioned previously - it would be awful to loose any sensation ;)


mumma bear
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Re: Mumma Bear's PM and a whole stack of other stuff program December 27 2008, 9:58 AM

hmmm that's odd...
My underbust has shrunk to 26 inches - no half anymore. There was nothing to loose there - skin on ribs - so either I've measured wrongly or the noogleberry has sucked something out of nowhere.
The ladies aren't shrinking though! In a pushup bra they touch - apparently something called cleavage!!


Mumma Bear
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Re: Mumma Bear's PM and a whole stack of other stuff program February 18 2009, 12:30 AM

I graduated to the large NB cups a couple of days ago!!!

Granted I'm still in transition (starting off each session with the mediums) and it feels like either my lungs will be sucked through my ribs, or maybe my ribs will crack first LOL - but it felt like that when I started noogling and now the mediums feel super comfy, so it's just a matter of growth to pad the area, and the new foam rings softening up. Noticed a difference in fullness on the first session of the large cups.

I'm currently:
Underbust: 26 inches
Overbust: 30 inches
Waist 23.5: inches
Hips: 34 inches
Weight: 41 kilos
Australian bra size 10A

No growth evident on the inches when measured all the way around, but there is an extra half inch when i just measure the cup - so there's definitely some extra roundness - they are really filling out on top lately - no real outwards growth at the moment. When fully noogled I'm a B-cup, so that feels great! It's not even quite 3 months into the noogling, so I think I could be on target for a small C by the 6 month mark.

Only taking the PM, protein drink, starflower oil and PM spray (homemade - so it's 100% tincture - pretty strong stuff!)

DH is very happy.





Mumma Bear
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Re: Mumma Bear's PM and a whole stack of other stuff program April 12 2009, 10:34 AM

Another inch!!!

This now makes me officially a 10A!!!!!! Well, my underbust of 26 inches makes me officially an 8A, but you just can't buy that here, so I'm calling it a full 10A - even better!! Only 2 more inches to my new goal of a 10C - I think it will only be a few more months, especially when I get the new XL domes - will order them soon.


So anyone out there with NO breast tissue as I had a few months ago - yes it IS possible!!!!

Happy Dance!!!!!


Mumma Bear
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Re: Mumma Bear's PM and a whole stack of other stuff program May 6 2009, 9:58 AM

Just updating my program - I'm still 31 inches with all the other measurements/weight the same (so 3 inches of growth so far) but they just keep getting rounder and rounder up top, so I'm ignoring the tape measure for now - I can see definite continuing growth. I've just gone to the XL domes (as of yesterday) and switched to the Bosom Beauty instead because with my 26 inch ribcage there's no way the XL Noogleberry domes would have fitted :(

Even so I still needed to fix more bluetac either side to fill the gaps to fit to my chest. They feel quite uncomfortable, but the L size felt awkward to start with, then felt quite comfy after a while, so it's just a matter of time.

I'm thinking my progress will seem quicker now I have actual breasts (yay!). Now I'm an A, it's only a matter of an inch a cup.

Not taking any fenugreek etc. PM tincture spray twice a day is really my only other NBE thing at the moment, stopped taking it internally. Must start back on the protein drinks...


Mumma Bear
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Re: Mumma Bear's PM and a whole stack of other stuff program June 22 2009, 9:53 AM

Just checking in with reports of a half inch gain - doesn't sound like much but that half inch has changed them from some breast tissue residing on my chest to something with actual round shape! So that's a full A and the bras are feeling tight. The XL BB dome (I just do one at a time) is now quite comfy to wear and I'm doing 2 hours either side in the mornings (alarm set for 3am) while I sleep-noogle (snoogle?), and another hour or 1.5 each side in the evenings (either working or ironing while watching TV). I notice I haven't got back to my protein drinks as I told myself last time on this thread, so that's a good reminder. I think I'm on the downhill run to my goal size now (10C) - it seems so much more achievable now - easily by the end of the year I'd say. Still using the PM tincture every morning and some evenings - I'm sure it's helping.

So anyone out there with AAA as I started with - there is hope!!! Patience and perseverance are key, cannot emphasise that enough!! :)


Katie #2
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Mumma bear's PM and a whole stack of other stuff program June 24 2009, 1:24 AM

Wow Mumma bear, you've been losing weight whilst your breasts are getting bigger.
Congrats keep it up.


Mumma Bear
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Re: Mumma Bear's PM and a whole stack of other stuff program June 28 2009, 11:37 PM

Thanks Katie for the encouragement - it means a lot!!! :))))

BMI is around 16 so I'm actually trying to put on weight to help with the boobie growth, but I find it tricky - my weird metabolism has gone even more beserk since perimenopause. Buying more protein drink today...




Mumma Bear
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Re: Mumma Bear's PM and a whole stack of other stuff program October 13 2009, 4:54 AM

So here's an update of my current program:

Using NB pump with L BB domes, blu tac on the edges, bandaids on my poor old nipples. Have figured out a setup that allows me to noogle with both domes during sleep - a poor man's Brava!

http://www.noogleberry.com/forum/index.php/topic,1409.0.html

Now either noogling all night long, or I set the alarm for 1am and noogle from then til 7am. If I just do the half night then I'll also noogle for a couple of hours in the evening - I actually think this works better than just one really long session, but both work very well anyway.

Have ordered more MSM as I found it really helped. Will order some more PM powder when I can afford it. Taking a break from PM is a good thing anyway I think as it will fool my body when I start taking it again - that's the plan anyway! Taking starflower oil, a hair/nails/skin supplement by Natures Own - I figure this helps with collagen production and my nails could do with being stronger anyway. And a protein drink every day.

I don't have a new measurement to get excited about, but I think that's just the tape measure lying again as they are definitely bigger every month - growth getting rounder takes a while to become growth outward I guess. My 10B bras are now much more comfy than the 10As - but I do love the 'bursting out' effect of squeezing into the A's!


Mumma Bear
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Re: Mumma Bear's PM and a whole stack of other stuff program January 1 2010, 3:15 AM

Happy New Year NBE-ers!

So just updating my program (I don't mind if anyone posts here BTW)

Added in BO to my program a few days ago - it's a concentrate from here:

http://www.naturalhealthyconcepts.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=ovary-lyph-f-NW90&Store_Code=nhc&search=ovary+lymph&offset=0&filter_cat=&PowerSearch_Begin_Only=&sort=&range_low=&range_high=

4 tablets per day - each tab contains 160 of ovary concentrate

Already feeling good effects - this is one I will definitely keep in my program.

Domes cracked last night - have ordered more. Still have my XL which I think I'll use one at a time until the new ones turn up.

Haven't measured for ages as I'm not getting much forward growth, but growth is getting fuller and fuller - slow yet steady progress.

Current Program:
Noogling
SP
BO
MSM
PM tincture topically
Protein drink


Necole
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Wow, great progress January 5 2010, 8:58 PM

Wow! You've had some amazing progress... you make me almost want to try the noogleberry but I know that I hate pain and everyone always says it hurts at first... so I'll stick with my PM for now. It is very cool to read success stories though-- very inspiring! :)

congrats... I'm sure you'll be at your goal in no time.


Mumma Bear
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Re: Mumma Bear's PM and a whole stack of other stuff program June 3 2010, 12:31 AM

Just updating - I'm now at a solid 32 inches - and 26 inches underbust. So that's a 10B/8C. Slowly growing - my goal is a 10C/8D. My program is pretty much figured out now as to what works for me:

Noogleberry
BO
MSM
protein drink

I would say in the last few weeks I'm finally OK about what I see in the mirror - they are finally looking like breasts. When I started my NBE journey years ago I would have been ecstatic about this size, but seeing as how well Noogleberry works, I am def going for much more!
 

dl9812

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So, you have had great progress of 4 inches in a little over a year and a half. I was expecting an update to see where you are now. Happy noogling!
 
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Mumma Bear

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hey there - will do as soon as I have one - I actually haven't measured since then, I try to stay away from the tape measure! It's now 3 years noogling for me. Crazy-busy at work getting everything sorted before Christmas, but will be able to take pics and measure during the week of holidays.
 

DreamCcup1

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Re: To Mummar Bear

Hi Mummar bear,

I had read your post serveral times on Breastexus and here in NB forum, your result is everyone's dream.

I was on NBE for almost 8 months now since May 2011, but unfortunatuly I didn't have any result. Maybe I took the wrong PM and it doesn't work for me ( I used to take 5 months of Ainterol PM caps + cream, massage 2 daily but I have zero gain).

I would like to follow your program, could you please help my question below:

1. For PM, what kind of branch are you taking throughout your program? How many mg/day and how many day/month?
2. For MSM: what branch are you taking? I also have arthritis knee and they MSM is good to reduce pain for arthritis knee, so I would like to get it asap. Could you pls give me a link to buy this product?
3. SP? what is SP
4. Why do you change from PM to BO (bovine ovarine?)
5. Do you take EPO? or starflower oil only? If you take starflower oil then no need fish oil, is that correct?

I know those are too many questions for you, but I just want to make sure I'm following the correct steps, my dream is half of your growth

Thanks a lot for your help
 
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Mumma Bear

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Hi DreamCcup1,
Thanks for your qs - not sure if I can really help, but will give it a try. I'm just about to post my pics so hold off on saying my results are anything special! For me it feels miraculous, but others have have way larger, faster results.

1. I've tried a few different brands - they all seemed to have an effect but I haven't taken PM much overall (made me too cranky)
2.I get my MSM here: http://www.mismo.com.au/ Nice company. Really helps with joint pain. I found it also increased my weight, but mainly in extra bone density I think.
3. Saw Palmetto (stopped because of cellulite)
4. I wanted to try something different and the PM made me cranky
5. I've taken starflower, didn't really notice a NBE effect. Depends what you're using it for - EPO would be great for your joints.
hope this helps! I've now just started (couple of days ago) trying some HGH boosters. If it gives me extra energy I'll be v happy. If it has an NBE effect - bonus!
 
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Mumma Bear

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Finally!

Not sure how to put the text between the pics, so see the image titles for timing. The first set is upon starting PM, the next a month later having gained an inch. Then I discovered NB shortly after!

The very last pic is a comparison in the exact same bra (10A biofit) between 3months of NB and 3 years of NB. I think it shows the progress better than the nudie shots. Stats-wise I am at 32.5 inches. A big improvement on 28 :) I've gone from 8AAAA (that's 30AAAA) to a full 8B. Please be kind in your comments! I've breastfed 2 kids for several years and am now in my early 40s, so they're not like all you gorgeous young things' ones.
 

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Mumma Bear

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...and the last pic should be the other way around. Latest pic (ie after 3 years NB) is on the left. And on the stats update I'm the same underbust measurement (26 inches). Have gained a little weight over my usual 42kg lately, prob about 44-45kg, but it has all gone to the thighs - arrrgghh! And in terms of the last 3 years I had a big interruption to my noogling/supps for a few months just before the two year mark and lost heaps of weight, so I would be further along if that had not happened.
 

Matt B

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Hi Mumma Bear, They look great,and so does the rest of you in the pictures.The kids,age ,and life does take its toll,but we can prevail,as our pictures have shown.Keep up the good work and I'm sure the boobie fairy will continue to bless you. ;D
You are a real example of what being patient can do in our to quote Pippa"Quest for Breasts".

MATT B ;D
 
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Mumma Bear

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Thanks Danigurl and MattB!

Danigurl - see reply#4

Just a quick explanation. From my cut and paste of my starting info written 3 years ago it lists a starting size of 10AA. Technically I was 8AAAA as I have worked out now from my stats but back then I had it in my head 10AA/small 10A was my size as that is pretty much the smallest size bra generally available here in Australia. I take in the band size by resewing the clips at the back, and I used to pad those AAs, for clothes to fit properly.
 

eva_bs

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WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You made me so JEALOUSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AMAZING....AMAZING results!!!!
I stopped noogling.... :(
Now...I am sorry I did!!!! :( I could have been on my way to 2 years!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I got scared that I am getting stretch marks on my breasts!!!!
I started taking PM...but then my period was delayed...I got my period after 42 days! So I decided to take a saliva hormone test...and good I did! PM is a BIG NO NO for me.
I am high in estrogen :( I wish that I wasn't!!! PM gives great great results! So I guess I will try Progesterone Cream and NB!!!!
WWWWWWWWWWWWWOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!
I am really really happy for you dear!!!
OOOO...and by the way.....your breasts LOOK BEAUTIFUL!!!! I wish that my breasts were that BIG! ;) and ROUND!
Thanks for sharing your progress with us Mumma bear!
Congrats....Congrats...Congrats!!!!
OOOO....how many hours a day did you noogle?
Thanks again!
 

minnie34

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Mumma, thank you so much for posting all your information and pictures too. I am so, so impressed and inspired - you look fantastic, what great, great ad for NBE you are!! :)
If I could achieve your results, I'd be over the moon! You've just inspired me to not put a timeline on noogling, if I need to continue for several years, so be it!!

Well done and huge congrats on your results, amazing!!!!
 

charitywat88

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Oh, I so needed to see your pics. I now have hope! I also have 2 kids and breastfed and have had my tubes tied so I'm done with having babies and getting started on my boobie growth journey. I'm only 23 so maybe in a couple years I can have nice BOOBS lol. They don't even feel like boobs now. I look like your starting pic just a little bigger. I was on a pm program and started having severe heart palpatations which can be caused by an increase in estrogen so I'm taking a break to see if this was the cause. I'm afraid I'm not going to be able to take supplements so I was getting depressed thinking NB alone wouldn't work but maybe if I keep at it I can have 'young' boobs again lol. Thanks so much for posting your pics!
 

Matt B

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Hi MummaBear,I saw what you said about posting,so I'd like to thank Charity for the info on PM regarding palpitations.
When I started NBE in May I almost used PM,but something told me not to.Charity just affirmed it.I stuck to red clover, fenugreek, saw palmetto, and the noogleberry and had good results.All that extra estrogen couldn't be good for you gals,and I wasn't ready to be an experiment.
And again Mumma,the pics look great.

Thanks,Matt B :)

PS -Charity,if I can grow boobs,so can you so hang in there! ;D
 

charitywat88

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I spoke with a nurse friend of mine and she said she didn't think the herbs were related to my palpitations. She said my symptoms sound like something else. I'm gonna wait a few more days and start my program again and see what happens. Hopefully it has nothing to do with it. If I'm not mistaken Matt most of the herbs we take increase estrogen because estrogen is responsible for boobie growth. So I suppose it depends on whether or not your estrogen dominant. I read that too much estrogen could cause palpitations so naturally my herbs were the first thing I thought of. According to my research pm is great so I wouldn't rule it out completely! :) Just wanted to clarify. I don't wanna scare anybody away from something that could be potentially helpful. :) Sorry to go off track on your thread here mummabear!
 
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Mumma Bear

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Hi Desert Rose - I just steeped the PM powder in a high proof alcohol for 2 weeks - shake the bottle every day. Strain, then it's ready for adding to moisturisers etc.

I also had cardiac side effects from PM. Chest Pains, palpitations and a bad feeling in the blood vessels in my legs. Just my experience, it's worth a try, but be alert to how it affects you, especially if you're sensitive to medications/herbs.
 

Matt B

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Thanks Mumma for the info on PM.It does have the highest amount of phytoestrogens of any herb known.Fenugreek and red clover have a lot,but not as much.Also,they have other benefits as well and the side effects are nil or none.BUT,you gals have to be careful with red clover because of birth control.Bottom line-do some homework.

MATT B ;)
 
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Mumma Bear

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Fenugreek lowers blood sugar levels - be careful with this one if you're prone to hypoglycaemia.
 
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