Padded Hell's Program

[minnie34]

PH, boobs not being as deflated this month is certainly excellent news!! You know what they say; every little helps!!
You seem to have gotten some very good tips from Gingerbee as well, so a change in the BB routine might lead to very positive results. I am more and more considering buying a BB too... Especially now that I know that I can use the NB cups with it. Did you get yours off ebay or directly from the manufacturers?

AF has well and truly arrived here too. I'm not feeling as well as I did last month but still much better than I used to, so PC definitely working its magic. I have been so, so bad food-wise this month that it is no surprise that my skin has gone all crazy and I got a bit bloated too.

I picked up some liquorice tea today in Holland's by the way, I'm sure somebody somewhere is using it for NBE so I figured, what the heck!

My L cups have arrived and I like them. They are way more comfortable than the CL's and the swelling is better than with the M cups so I look forward to using them for the next couple of weeks. I am sad to say though that total deflation unfortunately accompanied this AF but that was expected really. There's always next month huh??!!
I live in hope!!

 

[Padded Hell]

Minnie,

Although, I didn't completely deflate, they're still looking pretty sorry for themselves . I hate taking off my padded bra these days, as they look sooo small underneath. I wish we could stop this deflation business, but I suppose the smaller you are the more it notices . Hopefully, you'll hang onto something after AF, fingers crossed

I've been doing lots of BB experiments, thanks to Gingerbees handy hints & tips. I finally got round to trying the 'firm' & 'suck' settings. What was I worrying about? The firm setting did exactly what it said on the tin, but I don't really have much to firm up! It made my boobs look very disc-like, so it might be quite good for developing the tops. The suck setting had a slightly stronger suction & more pull, so I'm going to use it in in short bursts. Although, I had a serious case of 'Purple nipples' yesterday. My left nipple looked bruised, no soreness, just the alarming change of colour. Strange. I don't know whether it was BB, or the fact that for the last week or so all my neuromuscular problems have kicked off again. I'm a bear with a sore head!

I'm glad the PC is working its wonders again for you again this month. I know how hard it is to stay away from the junk food though. I've felt a bit down lately, and I've been so near to shovelling a whole packet of biscuits in my mouth on several occasions! Yesterday, I watched my husband eating a danish pastry & it was like 'food porn'. ;D. I had to move away..fast!!

Oh, I love liquorice tea, but I seem to have an adverse reaction to it. It's just me & my hyper-sensitive body, but I get heart palpitations & panic attacks. I tried to get to the bottom of it over on Breast Nexus but didn't really find out. It's so tasty though & has so many great benefits for NBE. I can eat the sweets though, no problem ;D

The goats rue batter has been quite interesting. The 1st time I used it, I had prickly boob pains & tingles within minutes of applying it. The 2nd time, I had fewer pains but they were still there. The 3rd time, ZILCH!!! Wow, my boobs get wise to what I'm trying to do so quickly. They're 100% 'growth-proof' ;D. But, I used it again last night and the pains were back! My left boob was hurting & aching in bed. What's going on there? ???

Sounds like you're getting on well, with the L cups. It sounds promising that you're getting better swelling with them than the M's. Now, you'll have more cups to alternate & keep the boobs guessing. I've started doing a combination of P & H and P & R again. My body gets used to routines so quick. Everyday, I've been using different settings on the BB too. By the way, I bought the BB on ebay from a company called 'Beau Deluxe'. I hope if you do decide buy it, that you like it. It's a lot of money to blow in one go .

 

[minnie34]

Oh I hear you. Operation deflation in full force here. During luteal, there is at least a little bit more filling out those super padded bras. 3 days into AF, boobs are definitely playing peek-a-boo :-\
It's funny; is it because we're so small chested that our boobs are also more or less immune to whatever we introduce?? I knew I spoke to soon about the L cups. I just took them off after a 2.5 hr session and guess what...?? No more swelling that I'd get with the M cups. At all. *Deeeeep Siiiiiiigh*
Anyways.

I'm glad you've been able to play around with the settings and you can now keep your body guessing.Strange that your nipple turned so purple. I wonder also if it has anything to with the neuromuscular? My nipples never turned purple before the accident that caused the whiplash but now they do, so you could be on to something.

Pastry porn, I love it!!!
I'm the same though. I love sweet stuff even though it's clearly so, so bad for me. Every now and then is ok to indulge, but the past month it was the other way around - healthy eating every now and then!!!
I'm back on track now though. Famous last words!!! ;D

The GR sounds interesting. But hey - pretty cool that you got those sensations in the first place, even if your boobs did cop on by day three!!! Are you alternating with the fenugreek now or using them together?
If your boob is hurting, it could very well be the GR!! I remember reading over at nexus about somebody swelling immediately after drinking the tea. That sounds like pretty potent stuff!! Maybe your prolactin is starting to kick in; come PH boobies, g*r*o*w!!!!!!

Interesting that you had such adverse reactions to the liquorice tea. I am prone to anxiety attacks so must keep an eye on it. I'm only drinking one cup a day, I was surprised at how delicious it was, thought it would be more aniseed taste. Is it really beneficial for NBE? I'm glad I hadn't just made that up - I'm sure I saw something about it but can't remember what : ;D

I must check out that company. It is a lot of money, no doubt. I guess I'm getting more and more impatient though. If nothing more has happened at the end of the summer, I need to really sit down and look at other options as I'll be approaching the 2-year anniversary and well....I don't know if I could be doing this for another 2 years??

 

[Padded Hell]

I've decided to do different settings on my BB for the next two weeks or so. I'm clutching at straws on a daily basis now . If nothing else, it makes it more interesting .

I wish we could find some answer to stopping the total monthly deflation. If it's any consolation, my swelling in the 1st half of my cycle is pretty pathetic. I rely on luteal swelling heavily! Perhaps, when you hit luteal again, you can start making a bit more progress with the L cups.

My nipples seemed to have stopped turning as purple now, thank goodness, but they're looking a bit tired, if that makes any sense.

The goat's rue batter is still having very erractic effects. One night, nothing, & then last night in bed I had aches and a few stabbing pains. Can't work it out :-\. I think I'll use it one more night, then swap it with the fenugreek oil for a few days. Keep 'em guessing ;D. I'd quite like to try goat's rue tea, but the fact that it's considered a 'toxic' plant (although, it's safe in dried form apparently) puts me off a bit. Plus, I don't think I respond to herbs that well . I'm sure though if the boobs don't improve, I'll be tipping it down my throat like it's going out of fashion ;D

Liquorice is great for NBE. It's an anti-androgen, it balances estrogen (so if you've got too much, it lowers it & if you've too little it raises it! How cool is that?), it boosts circulation, and I think it effects blood pressure, so best not to drink too much of it! I bought the dried liquorice root sticks (before I knew it sent me into an anxiety-ridden meltdown) from H & B, and a bit of that into my herbal teas. Yum.

I know how you feel. It's my two year NB anniversay in September & I don't know whether I can face another two years either. I'll be doing another few rounds of BB before then, no doubt, and then it's decision time...

 

[34asm]

PH, how have your measurements changed in the past 2 years? was there a marked difference in measurements/the way your bras fit?

october will be my 2 year NB anniversary. i'm still NOT an A cup, but i do have more breast tissues than before. unlike you, i've dabbled with all sorts of supplements and herbs. so i don't know if the growth was from NB for the supplements.

 

[Padded Hell]

34asm,

Well, I started off AAAA (might have even been 5 'A's, but I didn't want to admit it to myself!), and now I'm in the region of 32AA. I'm still not big on the tape measure, but my bra's are fitting awkwardly these days :-\. Generally, I only wear super padded 32A or 34A bras. The 32A is very tight bandwise now, but gives me more of the impression of boobs , whereas the 34A is a lot more comfortable. What bra size are you now?

What I've gained mostly is underboob, which I had none of before I started NB, and also more defination around the cleavage area. Although not much discernable 'cleavage' to speak of, sadly . What I'm lacking is, I have no boob projection from the side, and I haven't gained in the tops hardly at all, which my gaping bras can vouch for ;D. Like you, there is definately more breast tissue to grab now though!

I did try herbs years ago, for around 18 months in total, but I didn't seem to repond very well to them, and I felt bloated & horrible. It was a bit of a disaster for me, which is why I'm cautious now. Saw Palmetto did nasty things to my thighs as well ;D

I've seen your pics over on Breast Nexus, and I think your boobs look a LOT more defined. Looks like growth to me! . You're doing Brava aren't you? Seems to be working out for you.YAY! How many more weeks of Brava do you have left? Are you going to do another cycle, do you think?

I've only got just over two weeks of my first round of BB left, and there's no way I'm going to be an A cup by then, unless a minor miracle occurs ;D. It's hard going, isn't it? Looks like I'll be doing a few more rounds of BB. I do think these things ARE working for us, but it's happening incredibly slowly . I think it's the nature of our body types. No matter how much food or protein shakes I have, I can still see my ribs!!!! Arghhh

 

[lexuswoman]

Hi,

Have you tried the Breast Enlargement Without Surgery video, (www.breastenlargementvideo.com)? I've been using it since Jan 30th, I'm on my next to the last week of the 16 week program and I've gained over an inch! I measure at a little over 38 inches around the nipple, 30 inches under. I started at 37 inches around. I also massage for 360 rotations every night with bio-oil or cocoa butter lotion and a few drops of Greenbush enhancement blend liquid (saw palmetto, wild yam, and fenugreek blend), and I have a brava which I use for a few hours a day just for pump. I got the nB extra large, but can't get the cups to seal up without getting nasty red marks that take a few days to clear up. But, the video is excellent, its helped me relax and sleep better. It took me a few weeks to get the hang of the visualizations, but then I began to feel really stong sensations in my breasts everytime I'd listen to it. When I finish the program, I'm taking a week off and going back to do another 16 weeks! Booby greed is contagious! It takes about 30 minutes and I do it at night when I go to bed. And, I don't take any herbal, PM or BO stuff. The enhancement blend liquid is herbal, but I use just a few drops of it for massage. I take meds for seizures, and I can't risk mixing that stuff with my meds.

 

[Padded Hell]

Hi Lexuswoman,

I've never tried the breast enlargement video. I bought a hypnotherapy tape for NBE years ago, but I didn't have much luck with it. Sounds like you're doing really well with the video . I wish I could massage as much as you, but if I did 360 rotations every night, my hands would drop off! I've got weak wrists. I bought one of those electric massagers which heats up with an LED light, and just use that for a few minutes every morning. You still have to do the rotations with it, but it's less pressurised on the wrists.

Do you have to do specific visualizations with the video? I try to do this when I can, usually when I'm in bed, but my mind starts wondering & before I know it I've zoned out .

The boobie greed is contagious, that's for sure ;D. At the moment, I just take anything I can get! ;D

 

[lexuswoman]

Hi PH!

My wrists aren't that strong either, but I just do 100 at a time, rub my hands together and/or get more lotion, and so on til I get to 360. You'll get stronger the more you do it! Basically, with the video, there's a segment where you get really relaxed, then you move onto the 3 visualizations or bio-images as they're called. The first one is to picture what your body looked like when you were 12 years old, then picture your breasts growing and developing. The second one is to imagine a warm moist towel on your breasts and feel the increased blood circulation and the last one is to picture yourself with the figure you've always dreamed of. I took the vhs video, put it on a dvd, then put that on my computer and put the audio onto my mp3 player so I can listen to in bed and not have to drag my TV and headphones right next to the bed. I have to listen to the program, if I tried to just do it on my own, my mind would wander too! The program comes from the book called "The Bio-Imagery Method of Breast Enlargement and Waist Reduction". Its an old book, but you can get it cheap on amazon. The video is $39 and I had to order it from the site, I've never come across one on ebay or amazon. I know its crazy, I was very skeptical even after seeing the other's women's progress charts in the book, but it works! The method was actually tested in clincal studies conducted by doctors and all the women participating gained breast size, some even lost a lot of weight while still gaining cup size.

I found this online and its something you can try before buying the video:

You know you're smart, but did you realize you've got serious brain power over your breasts? It's true! According to Dr. Susan Love, M.D., your mind just might one alternative to implants.

In her bestselling book, "Dr. Susan Love's Breast Book," she describes a study in which participants were put into a state of deep relaxation and told to imagine that their breasts were growing. After doing this each day for 12 weeks, half of the women had to buy bigger bras.

It seems their minds were powerful enough to cause a hormonal shift that triggered breast growth! And if they can do it, so can you.

Simply find a quiet place to relax for 5 minutes and imagine that there is a warm, wet towel covering your breasts. As vividly as possible, imagine your breasts growing and expanding under the towel. Do this daily.
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That is a little shorter and you don't have to concentrate as hard, its worth a try. I'm so glad I tried the video. It took about 7 weeks for me to gain half an inch and I almost quit, but I'm glad I hung in there. Its worth a try!

Lexuswoman

 

[lexuswoman]

Here's the article where I found the information I posted:

Step #1: Increase Fullness with Fenugreek

Are small breasts making you miserable? Then you need fenugreek! This humble, inexpensive spice happens to be one of the best breast enlargement herbs you can find!

Fenugreek triggers breast growth in two ways: by mimicking the effects of estrogen and by stimulating the production of prolactin. Both of these hormones are crucial to the development of the breasts.

Best of all, fenugreek is safe and natural!

You can find fenugreek capsules in any health food store. Start by taking one capsule 3x per day and increase until you notice results. (Just be sure not to exceed the manufacturer's recommended dosage.)

It’s a surefire way to spice up your chest FAST!

Step #2: Think and Grow Breasts

You know you're smart, but did you realize you've got serious brain power over your breasts? It's true! According to Dr. Susan Love, M.D., your mind just might one alternative to implants.

In her bestselling book, "Dr. Susan Love's Breast Book," she describes a study in which participants were put into a state of deep relaxation and told to imagine that their breasts were growing. After doing this each day for 12 weeks, half of the women had to buy bigger bras.

It seems their minds were powerful enough to cause a hormonal shift that triggered breast growth! And if they can do it, so can you.

Simply find a quiet place to relax for 5 minutes and imagine that there is a warm, wet towel covering your breasts. As vividly as possible, imagine your breasts growing and expanding under the towel. Do this daily.

You just might have to buy a bigger bra yourself in a few weeks!

Step #3: Drink a Cup of Bustea

Before you reach for that next cup of coffee, why not try something that tastes good AND will benefit your bustline?

I suggest Bustea! Credit goes to Dr. James A. Duke, author of "The Green Pharmacy," for creating this cleavage-enhancing cocktail.

Bustea is brimming with breast enlarging phytoestrogens and is a total snap to make. Here’s how to do it:

In a saucepan, combine 1-2 cups of water with several tablespoons of fenugreek seeds. Add a dash or two of the following spices: anise, caraway, fennel, and licorice. (You can find them all at your local grocer.) Allow the water to boil for several minutes and strain before drinking. You can add lemon juice and honey to improve the taste.

Be sure to enjoy 1-2 cups of Bustea per day for the best breast enhancing effect!

Step #4: Massage Your Breasts

Herbs are a great way stimulate breast growth, but the fact is, they’re only half the story. Breast massage is a must! Here’s why:

* Massage increases circulation to the breasts.
* Massage stimulates prolactin production.

One of the biggest benefits of massage is increased circulation. Since phytoestrogens travel through the blood stream, the more blood you have flowing to your breasts, the easier it is for your breast receptors to pick up what they need in order to grow.

Prolactin production is another benefit of massage. This important breast enlarging hormone is triggered by regular stimulation to the breasts and nipples.

Simply massage your breasts for several minutes twice daily and you’ll be well on your way to seeing results!

Step #5: Make Your Herbs More Effective

How would you like to make any breast enlargement herb 80% more effective? The secret is to massage it into your breasts!

Herbs that are absorbed through the skin are much more potent than herbs that are swallowed. That’s because anything you swallow must first be processed by the liver.

Since the liver breaks down 80-90% of all substances that pass through it, your body only get to use 10%-20% of the herbs you take by capsule.

Herbs that are absorbed through the skin, on the other hand, bypass the liver and go strait into the blood stream. This means that your body gets to use ALL the nutrients they contain.

Your body can’t absorb solids, so you’ll need to use a liquid herbal extract. You can either purchase fenugreek or wild yam extract from a health food store or use some of the water from your Bustea preparation.

Simply combine 1 part extract with 2 parts body lotion and massage into your breasts twice daily.

Not only are you getting more from your herbs, but you’re also supercharging your massages. It’s a potent combination guaranteed to boost your bustline!

You can also gain weight.
Make sure get healthy amounts of estrogen, and protein, too.

 

[minnie34]

Well, GR certainly sounds temperamental!!
The pains are hopefully a very good sign of growth. And the fact that your experimenting with the settings as well as alternating the GR and the FG - your boobs wont know what hit them!! ;D

Last day of AF today for me. Deflation is absolutely complete and swelling minimal. I don't know PH, I really don't. Anyways, I am going to stop myself here before this turns into a total moan fest. I'm delighted to hear that the liquorice is so good for NBE, but I wont be getting any hopes up, mind you!! I read that it can raise blood pressure which is fine by me - mine is so ridiculously low that I once had a nurse thinking that there was something wrong with the machine....
However, I am also rather prone to anxiety so I think I'll stick to one cup per day for now. Actually, that is something I noticed quite clearly when I started using the PC; I'd always feel more anxious just before AF arrived (and during as well) but from the first cycle I used it, that jittery feeling was nowhere to be found. I believe that the AF related anxiousness is also a sign of estrogen dominance?
So there are a lot of benefits from the PC, no doubt. Of course, the one I was hoping the most for is shining in its absence. Ah well.

My nipple is still turning purple, but I find that if I just release the air, normal colour resumes immediately so I'm not going to worry about it for now. It could be that my boobs have gotten quite used to the pressure and that I am using a bit more than usual, although the breasts never really change colour so I don't think I'm over pumping. Through no choice of my own, I've only managed a few sessions this week. Am hoping to get in a few more over the weekend. It's like being on this crazy hamster wheel with no end in sight at times.
I'm only a few months behind you on the 2-year anniversary. That is definitely going to have to be the big sit-down-and-have-a-proper-think-about-it-all day. Still 6 months to go though so will have to make the most out of it!!

 

[34asm]

PH, i'm in the same boat as you as far as bras go. 32a makes me look like a have a little bit of boobage, but the band feels too tight at times. 34a is more comfortable (and i feel more proportional to my body) but there's gap.

my growth progress is also similar to yours.... i have more definition in the middle, but not much more projection. ever since switching to brava though, i'm starting to get a little bit of tissue on top. there's definitely a difference between the shape of my swelling after NB, as opposed to brava. with NB, the swelling was mostly at the bottom and sides, which stretched the top part out a little bit. whereas with brava, i get a lot more top swelling. recently, i'm using the NB less and less and just stuck with brava.

i feel i'm responding to brava a lot slower than average. i wasn't expecting a miracle considering i've been at NBE for the past 2 years. i'm not sure how long i'm going to keep on going with brava. i just know for now, it seems to be working so i don't want to stop. the swelling in the morning is addicting. the sad part is, when i take off the domes, i would think "wow, my boobs look gigantic!" but i'm only swelling to a full 34a cup. to most outsiders, that's still considered small. but i don't want to dwell on what other people think. i feel myself gaining more and more self confidence with the tiny bit of breast tissues i'm accumulating.

oh and i'm staying away from saw palmetto, and also maca. both seem to make my thighs larger. not cool. when i started taking PM, i felt bloated and horrible too.... but i switched brands until i found one that worked for me. it's been a year now and i haven't had any bad effects from PM i don't think. i'm also drinking goat's rue tea.

are you still using aumenti lotion? i'm still using it after my brava sessions (and shower). i'm not sure if i'm going to continue using it... i'm on my 3rd bottle.

 

[Padded Hell]

Minnie,

Yes, I'm waging a war on my boobs at the moment. I'm so fed up of not having any now. The goats rue is staying in my routine & it seems that alternating it with the FG has resulted in a few more pains at least . Just hope it turns into growth!

It's the worst feeling when the boobies deflate, isn't it? My boobs have been quite slow to recover this month . I was also told I have very low blood pressure, by a very stern nurse! Is there a pattern emerging here or what? ;D. Today my boobs turned the most horrific shade of purple I've seen in a looong time! I was convinced I'd done myself some damage & overpumped, but they were fine! I didn't even pump that hard or anything. The mystery deepens ???

That's so great that you're not getting the anxious feelings before AF (I know this feeling all too well!). I really like the sound of PC! I'm 99% sure I'm estrogen dominant. Everything seems to point to it. I think PC would be worth it just to stop the hormonal mood swings. Hopefully, the boob growth will follow on at some point, so don't give up on it

So far I'm keeping up with my BB 'another day, another setting' (AKA same s**t, different day)routine. I feel like my boobs have superpowers though, The amazing ability to repel & counteract anything remotely NBE. Still, I'll be back on my hamster wheel tomorrow as per usual...squeak squeak ;D

I'm thinking of adding MSM to my routine. Have you tried it at all? Is it any good? I've also been thinking about possible reasons why we're not growing. Do you think we need some sort of human growth hormone supplement? I'm just thinking out loud here really! I know some people take l'arginine, but it's in my whey protein, so I don't know whether I'd need a supplement as well. I don't know what to do! I don't want to be left empty-handed, literally ;D, after 2 years of NB.

 

[Padded Hell]

34asm,

I'm always fiddling & twisting in my uncomfortable bras at the moment. Nothing fits right ! Yes, there's definitely gaps with my 34a padded bra too *deep sigh*.

That's exciting news that you're getting a bit more tissue up top with Brava! I hope it continues . It's so hard to get growth there, but it's the place we need the most, to stop us looking soooo flat

Is Brava really limiting your life? I can't imagine wearing something for that length of time. Hats off to you, because I don't think I'd be able to get through a few days, let alone months ;D. I know what you mean when you think your boobs are gigantic with swelling, then you find out they're small in everyone else's eyes .I consider it a great day if I swell to a 32a! I really don't mind having what society consider 'small breasts'. I would happily live with an A cup! As time's going on, I find I'm lowering my expectations further & further. How long before I look in the mirror and say "Ok, they'll have to do" ;D
But I do feel like my confidence has grown too & it's all worth it just for that really.

I wish I could find an alternative to Saw Palmetto, as I still need an anti-androgen for luteal phase. I was considering trying nettle root, but then I read that it can stop the body from making aromatase (by blocking DHT) and this might not be such a good idea!
Have you found drinking GR tea has helped your swelling? Have you had any side effects from it? Sorry for all the questions!

I'm still using aumenti lotion, although I'm debating whether to stop using it too! I'm on my 5th bottle now, and I find it gives me a short term boost after applying it, but not much else. I'm wondering whether MSM would be more effective. Have you found anything to use instead of aumenti at all? I could do with some ideas!

 

[34asm]

the jury is still out on goats rue tea. when I first bought a small patch from this one seller on eBay, I was experiencing lots of breast pains. Then all of it stopped. Since then I've finished that patch and moved onto a larger patch from a different seller and I havent had any sensations at all. I can't say for sure if it helps with my swelling... I might ditch this patch and go back to the eBay patch to see what happens. They both claim to be organic but they taste different to me. I've been taking goats rue pills from mother love company for almost a year. At first, I felt pains from taking it then it died down...

I've also been taking MSM for 2 years now. I'm in the same boat as you so obviously it didn't do wonders for me. im taking it because I notice longer lashes and my hair stays pretty shiny even though I blow dry it every day. I think MSM is helping me in that department, but not so much in the boobs department. l-argemine didn't do anything for me either. I thought about the whole HGH deal and how it relates to NBE too... I dabbled with supplements with no results and concluded that getting enough sleep and staying active does more for me than trying to increase my HGH via supplements.

yes, brava is putting a damper on my social life. but honestly for me, it's not nearly as bad as some people put it out to be. I still get in my early morning exercises, and a few times a week, I sacrifice a few hours of brava for a night out with friends or a date. I'm making a conscious decision to not let it rule my life. when I have it on at night, I can still do house chores, so it's not like the NB where I'm chair bound most of the time. I've even done some stretching and leg exercises with the brava on. Haha the first few weeks were painful, but now 10 weeks in, I feel like its my house slippers or something because I'm so used to it.

I'm currently alternating between aumenti lotion and pm cream. have you considered using pm cream? If you're too cautious to try pm pills, the cream has a milder effect on your hormones plus you can control how much cream to use.

 

[minnie34]

Well, yay for pains - they have to be growing pains, they have to!!!
Deflation complete here for this month so roll on beginning of luteal phase next week, at least then I can kid myself a little further!! Gah!
I read the other day (over on Nexus I think) that if boobs don't grow during pregnancy, Fenugreek wont help. So maybe I'm using this batter in vain, but then again, it can't hurt, right?
Perhaps I'll have no choice but to look into GR too. You can buy it in powder form, yes?

With your different BB settings, you're bound to get some good results. How are you feeling now that this current BB period is almost over? Do you find any difference to when you were only noogling?

You might be on to something there with us needing a growth hormone supplement. But what?? I've tried MSM, twice. All in all, I took it for 6 months. No difference what so ever in either swelling or growth. Unfortunately not in lashes or shiny hair either (think I must have some of those resistant super powers too!!). But it's supposedly good for joints so I figured that after the whiplash, it couldn't hurt. I've also tried Agnus Castus, Evening Primrose Oil, Fish Oil, GABA, Bustea, PM cream, Wild Yam cream, Vit B 3&6....Nope, nothing so far. And then there's of course the almost 18 months of noogling. Sometimes I wonder whether I'm really dedicated or just really stupid!!

My nipple still goes purple, but thankfully the boobs stay a normal colour. This evening, I tried to pump really gently and no purple. But then I applied a little bit more pressure and there it was. However, it's not a lot of pressure and I reckon it's ok. Its probably due to our bad circulation or low blood pressure. or something else in our freakish bodies ;D ;D

 

[Padded Hell]

34asm,

I don't know what to make of goats rue either. I might try drinking it as a tea & see what happens. I feel like my boobs have already acclimatized to me using it topically

Wow, I'm impressed that you manage to do a few exercises with the Brava on! I thought I'd feel chained to the BB machine, but I've adjusted to it really quickly. I'd feel a bit lost if I didn't do NB & BB now.

I've heard conflicting things about MSM. Some people felt it helped but others said they didn't have as good swelling when they took it. I've used a joint supplement that had MSM in before, and I can honestly say my boobs stayed as flat as ever!
I really don't know about the whole HGH thing either. I was hoping just exercises & sleep would be enough, as I don't really want to go down the supplement route.

I've been very tempted to try PM cream, but I feel like I'm already estrogen dominant, so I don't know whether it would be such a good idea :-\. It's something I might try in the future though, especially if my 2 years of NB result in nothing! As long as I still have things to try, then all hope is not lost!

 

[Padded Hell]

Minnie,

How's things? Are the boobs on the 'up' again? I've just hit luteal, & they look sooo much nicer. I'm back in that river in egypt again. Yeah, my boobs have really grown

Oh no, that is bad news about the fenugreek! Maybe you'd fair better with the goats rue. I believe it's available in powder form, although I bought mine as dried herb, & just steep 2 handfuls of it in the same amount of olive oil. At least with GR, it's not estrogenic, and no waffle-y pancake smell. It's bad enough having pancakes for boobs, let alone smelling like one!

Disaster struck today. A wasp flew in the window while I was on the BB machine ;D. Nightmare! I nearly yanked the tube out of the machine! Yikes! Beside that little unexpected episode, I think the BB machine has made some difference. It's given me a better shape, that might be because of the BB cups. The one real bonus is that I get guaranteed swelling after I use it, which lasts a good few hours at least. I'd say at this point the changes are subtle, and I'll need to continue using it for quite a while, which I was prepared for. I still haven't attained the holy grail though : that A cup bra!

You've tried loads of supplements, haven't you? I'm beginning to think I must be stupid too. The logical side of my brain thinks 'Well, it would have happened by now, if this was working', but then the irrational side says 'Just one more go!' ;D
I feel like my body's saying ' Well, you've managed without boobs this long, so you don't need them now' Arghhh!

Now, I keep getting a worrying purple left nipple. Yesterday, I took the cups off after an NB session, and there were blueish spots on the actual tip of the nipple. Yeuch . It hung around for a few minutes before turning back to a normal colour. What's that all about??? Maybe it's because its my smaller shy boob & I tend to pump it slightly more. I just hope I haven't stumbled across some new disease called 'Nipple Rot' or something ;D . Just my luck!

 

[loveydovey]

Padded Hell,
Would you say the BB machine is worth it?
I have been using a noogleberry almost a year now very consistently and I haven't seen an improvement in shape or size.
You and Gingerbee have said it gives you a nice shape and you both have grown with it.
I realize that its expensive but I am willing to invest in it.
Also, do you have to put lotion on before putting the domes on like the noogleberry?

 

[lexuswoman]

Hi Loveydovey,

I don't know about the BB, but here's what I've been doing and I've grown almost 2 inches. I've been using the Breast Enlargement Without Surgery (www.breastenlargementvideo.com) program since Jan 30, I just finished 16 weeks this past week. I have also been massaging my breasts every night since early February with cocoa butter lotion and a few drops of Greenbush enhancement blend liquid. I have a Brava which I try to wear everyday for 30 minutes to a few hours. Its not the 10 hours a day Brava prescribes, but at least its something. Its taken me since Jan 30th, its a slow process and I didn't see any sign of growth until around April. I went from 37 inches around the bust, 30 inches under to around 38-39 inches around the bust, 30 inches under. I started as a 34C, now I'm probably a 34D. The Breast Enlargement video is about doing visualizations to encourage blood flow to the breasts, I don't know how it works, but it does. Its also helped me relax and sleep better at night. There are some awesome testimonials on the website and the program is based on real clinical studies done by doctors. The book came out in the late 70's early 80's and I don't know why this method of breast enlargement didn't catch on with women. Maybe they didn't want to do something for 16 weeks to see if it would work. What we're doing is really no different than an exercise program, its worth the work. I had thought about implants, but I didn't want something fake in my body for fear of complications and I didn't want to end up with boobs that I wasn't happy with. And, there's always the chance of having to have them replaced down the road. Surgery is still surgery and there's always a risk everytime. I'm happy with the growth I've gotten and I'm going for more! Hope you've found this helpful. Don't give up!