I'm into my 6th mo. of NG ( 1.5 hr. in AM & 1 hr. in PM) & NO GROWTH. In fact, I'm smaller than I ever was. I also take MSM, maca, WY & generic BO (with all the other additives like adrenal, pituitary, l-tyrosin, kelp). I tried PM for 2 mo previous to starting BO. It's very hard & depressing...