morninghello, I so agree with you, many of the "experts" give so many "facts" that are just not supported nor do they make since theoretically. They say vegetarians can't grow with NBE, they say you can't grow in cold climates and during winter months, they say you can't grow if you're asian, or if you are very thin, they say you can't grow while dieting and exercising. BLAH BLAH BLAH okay since morninghello proved a vegetarian can grow, I'm about to prove some of the other "facts" as just plain old myths. I grew while taking a product called zoft, and guess what? I started it in September and took it for 6 months, do the math, I took it during "cold months" given I was in GA at the time, but our winters there are still colder than my location now. And I grew 2 inches while taking zoft. Everything I have tried for NBE, I do along with a healthy DIET and I EXERCISE. So hmmm, I grew while doing these things. Also I am petite and considered thin. And I've seen many women thinner than me grow with NBE, so hmmm. Maybe these "experts" aren't so much "experts". Sounds to me as if they give their opinions as facts when they aren't. These are just my thoughts on things, I would take their advice with a grain of salt. Oh also, when I was first looking into pumps and suction devices I was told they don't work, hmm, think I proved that wrong too.